to decide whether he is a honest business man who own Max Audio and Prozone, selling car accesories at lelong.com.my. Please feel free to leave a comment.
The picture is William Wong Wei Keat and his wife Jessica Lim Seok Wai.
Here is our conversation
----- Forwarded Message -----
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
To: Arnold bosnan<arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:01:01 -0700
I think you are talking crap, taking a year 2008 product and claim warranty. This is bull shit. Moreover the model that you won the bid and the item you send back is also different model. I think you really got problem. We stop this conversation here.
You should report this to lelong when you receive a fake product or a wrong product. after 2 years, almost 3 years only you start to complaint. Even you bring this up to lelong, you still lose the case, because from year 2008 until today, we never sold a blue pioneer speaker that you sent back to us. That quality is really rubbish. And I got a lot of story from you and your girl friend. I also don't know what case is this.
I will close this case here, please go and buy a new unit.
No further email will be reply, if you want, just go and report it to lelong.
On 21/10/2010 11:04 PM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
To: Arnold bosnan<arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:01:01 -0700
I think you are talking crap, taking a year 2008 product and claim warranty. This is bull shit. Moreover the model that you won the bid and the item you send back is also different model. I think you really got problem. We stop this conversation here.
You should report this to lelong when you receive a fake product or a wrong product. after 2 years, almost 3 years only you start to complaint. Even you bring this up to lelong, you still lose the case, because from year 2008 until today, we never sold a blue pioneer speaker that you sent back to us. That quality is really rubbish. And I got a lot of story from you and your girl friend. I also don't know what case is this.
I will close this case here, please go and buy a new unit.
No further email will be reply, if you want, just go and report it to lelong.
On 21/10/2010 11:04 PM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Hi,
If you buy a new auction car the warranty is the same.
The problem now is you ( prozone) people have shipped the fake product
as it's not match the color of the picture.
Now you said the other way, that base on picture it's not the same product
it's because you shipped the wrong product back 2008.
If I a person bought a fake let say radio back 10 years ago and the company is still operating,
the person still can sue or exchange the product.
The problem now is fake product issue now warranty issue.
If its a genuine product it won't be easily crack and the noise is fake.
If a person commit a crime back 10 years ago and if new evidence found, the person still be charge
now after 10 years it's over. "Like a person selling fake product back 10 years and if found an evidence,
the person still be charge no matter the warranty is over or not.
What happen to this sentence? "Please give me the order id on prozone, if the item is really from us, I will replace you with a genuine pioneer speaker." Never keep your promise?
Arnold Bosnan
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:37:44 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
If you buy a new auction car the warranty is the same.
The problem now is you ( prozone) people have shipped the fake product
as it's not match the color of the picture.
Now you said the other way, that base on picture it's not the same product
it's because you shipped the wrong product back 2008.
If I a person bought a fake let say radio back 10 years ago and the company is still operating,
the person still can sue or exchange the product.
The problem now is fake product issue now warranty issue.
If its a genuine product it won't be easily crack and the noise is fake.
If a person commit a crime back 10 years ago and if new evidence found, the person still be charge
now after 10 years it's over. "Like a person selling fake product back 10 years and if found an evidence,
the person still be charge no matter the warranty is over or not.
What happen to this sentence? "Please give me the order id on prozone, if the item is really from us, I will replace you with a genuine pioneer speaker." Never keep your promise?
Arnold Bosnan
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 12:37:44 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
Hi Bro,
First of all, the bass of the color is grey, moreover, this auction is year 2008, and it is at RM1 auction.
Even if it is original and it is buy it now, we only provide 1 year warranty, auction product is 1 week warranty. The item has been ended year 2008, how can we warranty you? I tough you said you just bought the speaker?
On 21/10/2010 3:06 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
First of all, the bass of the color is grey, moreover, this auction is year 2008, and it is at RM1 auction.
Even if it is original and it is buy it now, we only provide 1 year warranty, auction product is 1 week warranty. The item has been ended year 2008, how can we warranty you? I tough you said you just bought the speaker?
On 21/10/2010 3:06 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Hi william,
Lelong have archive the data and the original data is as below:
http://www.lelong.com.my/rm1-pioneer-ts-a6982e-6-x9-400w-3-mid-bass-speaker-original-11757113-2008-03-Std-P.htm
Arnold Bosnan.
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:54:51 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
Lelong have archive the data and the original data is as below:
http://www.lelong.com.my/rm1-pioneer-ts-a6982e-6-x9-400w-3-mid-bass-speaker-original-11757113-2008-03-Std-P.htm
Arnold Bosnan.
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 11:54:51 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
All lelong account is manage by me, I have 6 account on lelong. Just that I just my wife and my brothers name to register on lelong. They are not in charge of the account. No matter where you buy, the product will also send from our warehouse.
Please give me the order id on prozone, if the item is really from us, I will replace you with a genuine pioneer speaker.
On 18/10/2010 11:58 PM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Please give me the order id on prozone, if the item is really from us, I will replace you with a genuine pioneer speaker.
On 18/10/2010 11:58 PM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Then whose product is that? can you find out and let me know?
In my history I found prozone sold to me. Now prozone is max audio.
If not maxaudio who then who? prozone is max audio plus several others comp at lelong is max audio too.
If not maxaudio then prozone because in our transaction is prozone but prozone is max audio under william wong.
The pioneer speaker bought from prozone which is max audio and max audio is william wong but william wong said is not max audio then her wife business lim seok wai which I don't know they got married or not?
Arnold Bosnan
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:23:02 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
In my history I found prozone sold to me. Now prozone is max audio.
If not maxaudio who then who? prozone is max audio plus several others comp at lelong is max audio too.
If not maxaudio then prozone because in our transaction is prozone but prozone is max audio under william wong.
The pioneer speaker bought from prozone which is max audio and max audio is william wong but william wong said is not max audio then her wife business lim seok wai which I don't know they got married or not?
Arnold Bosnan
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:23:02 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
From the picture, it is not our product, this is our pioneer speaker: http://maxaudio.com.my/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=3986
On 18/10/2010 8:44 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
On 18/10/2010 8:44 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Attached is the cracked speaker.
----- Forwarded Message -----
Subject: Fw: Fw: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "Arnold Bosnan" <arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com>
To: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:38:24 -0700
The person call is my girlfriend le. She defend me as she think I am being bully by people like you.
you want to talk to her again?we can call you tomorrow as we will be together tomorrow night.
you can hear my voice and her voice via my phone.
Are you blind or what as the speaker crack so naturally with line that impossible to be make by human.
you also said it's your product but you deny it's not "I notice that the speaker is sold from us."
If it's sold from you then why the model is not available?
Strange. you need to ask your people or supplier then.
You need to ask the seller then LIM SEOK WAI <-- where he get the speaker then.
you want me to get the photo of the speaker box? I still keep it.
But the speaker box do not have address at all.
Please investigate first from LIM SEOK WAI . he might be able to tell you more.
Arnold Bosnan
Subject: Fw: Fw: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "Arnold Bosnan" <arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com>
To: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:38:24 -0700
The person call is my girlfriend le. She defend me as she think I am being bully by people like you.
you want to talk to her again?we can call you tomorrow as we will be together tomorrow night.
you can hear my voice and her voice via my phone.
Are you blind or what as the speaker crack so naturally with line that impossible to be make by human.
you also said it's your product but you deny it's not "I notice that the speaker is sold from us."
If it's sold from you then why the model is not available?
Strange. you need to ask your people or supplier then.
You need to ask the seller then LIM SEOK WAI <-- where he get the speaker then.
you want me to get the photo of the speaker box? I still keep it.
But the speaker box do not have address at all.
Please investigate first from LIM SEOK WAI . he might be able to tell you more.
Arnold Bosnan
----- Forwarded Message -----
Subject: Re: Fw: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
To: Arnold bosnan<arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:14:37 -0700
The pioneer speaker you send back is blue color right? That is imitation pioneer, I only sell original pioneer. My staff did inform me that he receive a crack speaker, then I ask her to pass back to the supplier, the supplier said it is not his item. Then he pass back to me and I notice that the speaker is sold from us. The model behind is 6922, we do not have this type of speaker.
Then I also got receive a phone call from somebody saying that he bought your speaker and it was crack, so now I want to know you sold this speaker to a customer or it is you that crack the speaker.
I only receive 1 blue pioneer speaker but I got 2 case, I suspect it is you selling to that customer.
On 18/10/2010 8:05 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Subject: Re: Fw: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
To: Arnold bosnan<arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 23:14:37 -0700
The pioneer speaker you send back is blue color right? That is imitation pioneer, I only sell original pioneer. My staff did inform me that he receive a crack speaker, then I ask her to pass back to the supplier, the supplier said it is not his item. Then he pass back to me and I notice that the speaker is sold from us. The model behind is 6922, we do not have this type of speaker.
Then I also got receive a phone call from somebody saying that he bought your speaker and it was crack, so now I want to know you sold this speaker to a customer or it is you that crack the speaker.
I only receive 1 blue pioneer speaker but I got 2 case, I suspect it is you selling to that customer.
On 18/10/2010 8:05 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
Then you try to deny everything, that's the only speaker I bought for my car and I have prove the purchase.
Is it your internal ppl do somthing. I have proof my purchase. I did not buy any other 6 inch speaker that the one listed below. I have only 1 car and I only buy 1 and only 1 for my car.
What other thing you want to say now? I have send you a mail with bank transaction.
I don't know why there is so many problem to exchange when there is a problem with the speaker.
I have proof of purchase in my previous mail.
Arnold Bosnan.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:15:56 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
Is it your internal ppl do somthing. I have proof my purchase. I did not buy any other 6 inch speaker that the one listed below. I have only 1 car and I only buy 1 and only 1 for my car.
What other thing you want to say now? I have send you a mail with bank transaction.
I don't know why there is so many problem to exchange when there is a problem with the speaker.
I have proof of purchase in my previous mail.
Arnold Bosnan.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 22:15:56 -0700
"william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my> wrote:
The speaker is 100% not from us, prozone is also our account. The model you ship to me also not the same as the one I am selling.
I think you bought it from another seller.
On 18/10/2010 1:45 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
I think you bought it from another seller.
On 18/10/2010 1:45 AM, Arnold bosnanwrote:
I sent you the speaker already and you said it's not from you.
Prozone is max audio right?
So please give me the warranty.
Arnold Bosnan.
Prozone is max audio right?
So please give me the warranty.
Arnold Bosnan.
----- Forwarded Message -----
Subject: Re: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
To: arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:34:33 -0700
SOrry i did not receive your picture
>
> Arnold bosnanwrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I didn't open loud. you see the picture it
>> crack with line. if a speaker is too loud open,
>> it wont crack like that.
>> Arnold Bosnan
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> *Subject:* Re: Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
>> *From:* ProZone <prozone08@gmail.com>
>> *To:* arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com
>> *Date:* Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:09:59 +0800
>>
>> Can you please take a photo and show us.
>>
>> Normally if the speaker is overload or crack, it will void the
>> warranty
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Arnold bosnanwrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi ,
>> >> The speaker in the photo is a 3 way speaker and
>> recently I saw the
>> >> speaker crack.
>> >> I don't even open more than 17 volume for that speaker.
>> >> Is it a manufacturer defeat?
>> >> Can exchange?
>> >> Thank you.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Arnold Bosnan.
Subject: Re: re Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
From: "william@maxaudio.com.my" <william@maxaudio.com.my>
To: arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:34:33 -0700
SOrry i did not receive your picture
>
> Arnold bosnanwrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I didn't open loud. you see the picture it
>> crack with line. if a speaker is too loud open,
>> it wont crack like that.
>> Arnold Bosnan
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> *Subject:* Re: Speaker crack pioneer 3 way speaker
>> *From:* ProZone <prozone08@gmail.com>
>> *To:* arnoldbosnan@yahoo.com
>> *Date:* Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:09:59 +0800
>>
>> Can you please take a photo and show us.
>>
>> Normally if the speaker is overload or crack, it will void the
>> warranty
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Arnold bosnanwrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi ,
>> >> The speaker in the photo is a 3 way speaker and
>> recently I saw the
>> >> speaker crack.
>> >> I don't even open more than 17 volume for that speaker.
>> >> Is it a manufacturer defeat?
>> >> Can exchange?
>> >> Thank you.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Arnold Bosnan.
So the next time you buy from www.lelong.com.my you need to be careful. Pioneer original speaker will come with attached with hologram pioneer sticker and have manufacturer address. All Max Audio Pioneer speaker which William Wong claim original does not have hologram Pioneer sticker as I saw on his advertisement. So whether he shipped the right or wrong product, his product is still fake.
